Wednesday, May 17, 2006

Shabbos Leniencies of the Chazon Ish II

Continued from here:

O) The Chazon Ish would go outside on Shabbos with his coat draped around his shoulders, without inserting his arms in the sleeves.

P) The Mishnah Berurah (308:63) writes that clothing which were wet during Bein Hashemashos may not be moved for the duration of Shabbos since we apply the rule of "Miggo De'Iskatzai L'Bain HaShemashos Iskatza'i Lekulei Yoma" (Since it was Muktza during Bein Hashemashos it is Muktza for the entire day) [Note: wet clothes may not be moved because of a Gezeirah Shema Yischot - he may come to squeeze out some of the water].

The Chazon Ish held that laundry which was hanging on a clothesline, even if it was wet, during Bein HaShemashos, may be taken down off of the clothesline (Bari - once they are dry, I assume) if there is a need. Not only for the purpose of wearing the clothes, but even if the clothes were hanging in strong sunlight and getting ruined - one may take them down.

The Chazon Ish also felt that if the situation is that if he would leave the clothing hanging, they would be wet by Motzaei Shabbos, that is considered a legitimate need and one may remove those clothes on Shabbos.

Q) The Mishnah Berurah (318: 113) writes that one should be stringent in not removing food from a cooked dish which is on the fire even if it is completely cooked.

The Chazon Ish writes (Orach Chaim 37:15) that if the pot is on a stovetop which is uncovered, such that if he takes it off of the fire he will not be able to return it (due to the prohibition of Hachazarah on to an uncovered flame), and he wishes to remove some food from the pot while leaving it on the fire - his only option being taking food out while it is still on the fire, one can be lenient and remove food from the pot while it is still on the fire. (Assuming the food is fully cooked).

The reason why the Chazon Ish is lenient in this matter is, since:
1) There is a dispute among the Rishonim whether there is any prohibition at all of Hagassah (stirring) by a fully cooked dish.
2) This is not bona fide stirring, since no mixing is taking place, rather removing food from the pot.

[ The Chazon Ish felt that it was better to do the above than rely on a metal blech as a sufficient cover to allow Hachazarah ]

R) Rabbi Adlerstein reports (on the previous section of this, in the comments) that while the Mishnah Berurah is stringent in placing almost anything into a Keli Sheni, the Chazon Ish allowed placing lemon into a Kli Sheni tea.

S) The Chazon Ish allowed making ice on Shabbos.

T) The Chazon Ish allowed liquid soap, even if viscous, to be used on Shabbos, and there is no prohibition of Memachek.

U) The Mishnah Berurah (326:19) allows the placement of a hot bottle of water on the stomach on Shabbos only in a case of great necessity.

The Chazon Ish held that placing it on one's feet in order to warm up was permitted.

V) The Mishnah Berurah (340: 27) brings the opinion of the Korban Nesanel that one may not attach a safety pin to a garment.

The Chazon Ish questions the Korban Nesanel's view and holds that if in the manner the safety pin is placed it is clear that the attachment is only temporary, with the intent to remove it, there is no prohibition, since it is not considered Tofer.

Based on the Chazon Ish, it is permitted to use a safety pin to attach a pacifier to a young child's garment, if it is done in a temporary fashion.


Anonymous yehuda said...

Isn't making ice on shabbos pretty much accepted by everyone?The only exeptions I am aware of are the steipler and the tscebiner rov.I have heard in the name of Rav Henkin that in Euorape it was common in the winter to put scmaltz outside to freeze.However I don't make ice shabbos if I knnow I probaly won't use it that shabbos due to the Issur hachonoh.Please correct me if I am wrong

3:31 PM  
Blogger Bari said...

The Shemiras Shabbos Kehilchasa (vol. 1 10:4) says it is best not do so unless there is a Tzorech Gadol.

In the footnote there he quotes reasons to be Mattir from R' Shlomo Zalman, and he quotes Shu"t on either side, mainly Lekulla though. (Apparently the Mishneh Halachos is Machmir).

Essentially, though, it seems many Poskim are Mattir, like you say.

[ You probably know more than me about this issue :) ]

6:38 PM  
Anonymous only shemah said...

I'm not questioning the truth of this pi hasmuah from Rav Henkin;however I want to point out that freezing smaltz is not the same as freezing water.For example even some who are mattir making icecubes do not allow making ices or ice cream since you want to eat them in thier frozen state unlike ice cubes that you want to return to water as it cools off your drink.I also find it POSSIBLE that they froze smaltz to avoid it spoiling and therefor the shaalo would be differant.Of course this is hilchsho l'mishicha since it's only a pi hasmua anyhow.

10:55 AM  
Blogger Bari said...

Thanks, only shemah. You're right on the Chillukim. I hope you enjoy the halachic issues brought up.

Looks like you are. :)

11:29 AM  
Anonymous only shemah said...

You welcome Shemah.Yes I would love a blog thats focuses on torah,halacha etc. and not all the devorim assurim and junk that is found on so many of the other blogs.

11:52 AM  
Anonymous only shemah said...

I meant bari unless you object my being of first name basis with you..

11:53 AM  
Blogger Bari said...


12:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does :) stand for?I see you used it twice here.

3:39 PM  
Blogger Bari said...

It's a smiley face, sideways.

Works alot better on haloscan :)

5:52 PM  

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